06-16-2010, 03:39 PM
Riz Wrote:The NPD numbers were sales figures over 3 months only. Not totals.
Yes, 3 months is one quarter, I'm not trying to hide that:
Dustie Wrote:..when comparing quarterly numbers (such as Q1 2010)...
Quote:They picked a period where Android devices were being sold on a buy-one-get-one-free deal, while at the same time, was during the slow time for iPhones, due to everybody waiting for the next phone announcement. Those numbers mean nothing.Yes, they mean nothing except that during the first quarter of this year, more Android OS smartphones were sold then iPhones.
Quote: Hell, they are marketing at its worst.I think we all understand the business cycle and the product cycle, but you can't argue that comparing quarterly results is "contrived." You can get these nubmers directly from Apples 10Q for example:
That's like saying: I have a business. I've been selling $10 Million a day (yeah, I have a great business here in my contrived example). Skelas comes along and starts selling the same product. He normally sells $5 million a day (still good, but not quite the market entrenchment I have). For a week, Skelas sells $5 Million, but during that week, since I'm introducing a new product line, I sell only $3 Million a day. You cannot produce a report that says he's overtaking me using just that week's data in ANY GOOD CONSCIENCE. Even GOOGLE discredited those numbers.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/3...7/d10q.htm
(Search for iPhone Unit Sales and compare Q1 2010 and Q1 2009)
Quote:As for the figures that Slamz posted, Flurry is a pretty valid source of data. All I did was pull what they agree is a more realistic comparison of data. Taking his data and the data I showed, states that without a doubt, the iPhone is outpacing the Android by an outstanding margin.Apple was outpacing Android but Android devices outsold iPhone devices in Q1 by a large margin.
Quote:For my 1 days sales, Apple presold 600,000 units. That's over 1/2 million ALREADY PAID FOR and it's not even released yet. They never presell more than 50% of their stock, as they leave that for in-store reservations (standard and well-documented Apple practice). That means, since they are no longer able to accept reservations either, they have ALREADY SOLD or have reservations for, over a million devices. That's what they will sell OPENING DAY. They have the supply line to make a little over 2 million a month....TWO MILLION A MONTH. Note, they haven't even opened ordering to the International Market yet. This is a US release ONLY.I hear you, but I agree with Slamz that in the long run, the more open devices will tend to win out.
How can you look at those numbers and not concede that somebody, even if it's just yuppy douchebags, is buying what Apple is selling (the whole constrained experience). By somebody btw, I mean a hell of a lot more somebodies than are buying into Android devices.
Quote:Developer share on Android devices is pathetic. Apple may piss us, as developers, off quite often, but dammit in the end, we have to fucking eat, so we will bend over and even give them some pushback action if that's what it takes. Why? The current iOS market share is too big to not want to suck on the tit of.I'm sure you're right that the iPhone platform is more rewarding for developers so I would focus on that and hope that the Android doesn't continue to do well. =)
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