10-21-2009, 11:16 AM
I just have a hard time separating art's physical medium from the human psyche ingesting it. For me to accept that art is limited, I have to accept that human experience is limited and I just don't see that as being true. End thought.
New thought.
By your own admission, music is math. We say that music must have structure based on math in order to be considered music. When we think about structure we think about 4/4 or 7/8 beats per measure but this is structure based on fairly simple math and its simplicity is appealing to the human ear. Isn't it conceivable though to write music based on more complex math that might sound like total shit to the human ear but still have structure? There are infinite aspects to mathematics. They even have a symbol for it ∞. We learn this in very rudimentary math classes. Why couldn't a composer apply infinite math to sound to create infinite music? Just because our brains couldn't handle the complexity of infinite music doesn't mean that it wouldn't be music. Wouldn't that make art limitless?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
Back to the first thought.
If you are going to make the argument that music is math that must be appealing to humans then again I argue, how can you separate art from the human psyche?
New thought.
By your own admission, music is math. We say that music must have structure based on math in order to be considered music. When we think about structure we think about 4/4 or 7/8 beats per measure but this is structure based on fairly simple math and its simplicity is appealing to the human ear. Isn't it conceivable though to write music based on more complex math that might sound like total shit to the human ear but still have structure? There are infinite aspects to mathematics. They even have a symbol for it ∞. We learn this in very rudimentary math classes. Why couldn't a composer apply infinite math to sound to create infinite music? Just because our brains couldn't handle the complexity of infinite music doesn't mean that it wouldn't be music. Wouldn't that make art limitless?
Quote:In mathematics, "infinity" is often used in contexts where it is treated as if it were a number (i.e., it counts or measures things: "an infinite number of terms") but it is a different type of "number" from the real numbers. Infinity is related to limits, aleph numbers, classes in set theory, Dedekind-infinite sets, large cardinals,[2] Russell's paradox, non-standard arithmetic, hyperreal numbers, projective geometry, extended real numbers and the absolute Infinite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
Back to the first thought.
If you are going to make the argument that music is math that must be appealing to humans then again I argue, how can you separate art from the human psyche?
Caveatum & Blhurr D'Vizhun.
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