10-02-2009, 06:43 PM
Diggles Wrote:Christ Vllad, do you have alztimers or demensia? I would think someone involved with shipping industry would have a better understanding of this shit.
Does the majority of the world live in Buffalo? No. Do they even live in regions that get snow? NO, they live in cities, so the overall energy savings of a hybrid cars and trucks is ENORMOUS. You know that UPS is starting to buy large hybrid trucks that save 50% fuel?
Actually the majority of Americans do live in places just like Buffalo. The complete northern half of the US with exception of the North West. Then throw in the entire south including Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and you have the majority of Americans living in extreme temptatures. Not everyone lives in places like San Fran or LA.
I am aware of the UPS Hydraulic Hybrid. I hear them bitch about it every year at the NITL meetings. Again as I have said many times the loss of HP means they lose capacity which requires the use of more trucks therefore negating the emissions you cut down by using them in the first place. Again you are falling for a myth not reality.
Diggles Wrote:You are completely wrong about a pure battery car being more green than a hybrid. Besides having bigger toxic batteries, how do you think a battery gets charged? 75% of the electricy is generated with fossil fuels. Whereas a hybrid using wasted inertial energy, completely carbon free.
This just proves my point. Green is a myth.
Diggles Wrote:Yes, lets just waste energy with braking instead of harnessing that wasted energy in city driving and doubling our milage. Like I said, there is no magic bullet energy replacement for fossil fuels. Your expectations are frankly insane. Hydrogen is already accepted as the replacement for gasoline, but ways of harvesting it need improvement. (ie...excessive solar/wind/fusion energy to power electrolysis on sea water)
I have no expectations so I am not sure what you mean by that. I do however live in reality and not the fanatsy that you seem to live in. For example there are no Hydrogen engines out there being produced in usable vehicles. Why? It cost to damn much. It may be green but only in someones head. It isn't real until someone starts producing Hydrogen automobiles and trucks that are being used on the road then we can talk about Hydrogen.
In the mean time you can't change the laws of physics. If you burn carbon based fuels, the end result will always be the release of carbon gasses.
Getting back to the point that seems to be lost on you is Green is a political issue and not something we are actually dealing with in any real sense today. I don't disagree that Hybrids aren't a good stepping stone but they aren't Green. Like I said they are more like yellow. If we were really dealing with it we would have things like Hydrogen automobiles and a ton more nuclear plants.
Vllad