05-02-2019, 05:30 PM
(05-02-2019, 07:45 AM)OrsunVZ Wrote: The White walkers were behind the NK (the direction Arya came from). And look how far Theon had to run to get to the NK. That's the distance Aria had to cross. The ONLY way for her to have reached him, was for her to be invisible.
What Jacquen pulled off on the lannisters was at night with a spread out group of guards at relative ease etc. This was really quite different.
But not only does Arya now have invisibility, but she also has super human leaping abilities.
I have heard MANY different ways the dothraki should have been used. Would the outcome be different in the end? No. I think you're absolutely right that they were going to get mowed over regardless. But cavalry is used to flank an otherwise already engaged enemy. Basic strategy.
The lighting of the trench was also dumb. You had guys running there with torches one by one getting taken out, why not do what they did for melissandre, for the guys holding the torches??
I can get on board with kind of what you are saying O but I think you are leaping like Joe was.
You assume Arya had to be invisible and I am unsure how you make that leap. We don't see how she got in the Godswood nor which direction she came from. The NK's boys were standing over to where Theon died. The NK walked the distance that Theon ran from Bran. The NK is Theon's running distance from his guards when Arya attacks.
You only see Arya leap from about 5 or 6 feet away (don't forget it was in slow motion). Shit I am old and can still leap 5 or 6 feet. In high school I could long jump 17 feet. It was dark, she could have come from the woods.
Ultimately I get your frustration, you want to know how Arya got there. You don't know, so why would you assume she would have to be invisible? Their isn't the possibility of any other option? We weren't shown so I am not sure why that would frustrate you? In the end what difference would it make?
Cavalry isn't used for just flanking. It can be used for that but it sure wasn't used for that in the American Civil War, Mongolians, Huns, William the Conqueror and best Cavalry armies that ever existed were used for many different purposes. Including frontal assaults to mow down front line non piked heavy infantry. Again having a tactics discussion isn't really relevant, the army was dead no matter what they did. No amount of good tactics matters in this case.
It's like pondering how a 6 year old boy with a spear can use better tactics to defeat a Tiger. I have news for you no tactics are going to save the 6 year boy. The boy needs a better strategy not better tactics.
On lighting the trench. Do you remember in the books when Nan talks about the Long Night that the Night King brings? He can make it so cold that lighting a fire is no longer possible? My take on viewing that scene is the storm that the NK brings wasn't going to allow the trench to be lit by torches and flame arrows. The flames were going out. It had to be lit magically. That is why they protected Mel. Plus how do you organize protection for a bunch of random dudes running at the trench from different directions?
In general I think people are piling on because of reasons I certainly can't grasp. If people are upset over tactics shown in GOT then they must blow their fucking minds on other forms of entertainment. Their isn't a movie or show that has EVER been made that depicts combat accurately. Especially ancient combat. Why do people expect GOT to change that? None of their combat has been any more accurate than any other show.
At this point one of the greatest shows that was ever created is coming to an end. If people are mad at the show now it is probably not the show's fault as much as it is the viewers themselves.