06-19-2015, 08:31 AM
Jakensama Wrote:Jon was just kind of a retard - he did the equivilent of allowing ISIS members to cross the border and become citizens, and didn't expect to get fragged by his own troops?
I am not sure that is a valid comparison. Maybe more like letting a bunch of Mexicans cross our borders because ISIS is starting to recruit them is a better comparison.
Its not like the entire Nights Watch didn't survive the fight at the Crag against White Walkers. Maybe with exception of Olly everyone has seen White Walkers. Jon's logic of not allowing Wildlings to become Wights is not the stuff of a retard.
Book Jon went off the rails about Winterfell. Show Jon is completely right and his men are the retards especially after Hardhome.
In the show what happened to Jon has nothing to do with the Wildlings otherwise it makes zero sense. Self preservation even for theives with an IQ of 70 had to kick in after what they heard happen in Hardhome and lived through at the Crag. The only way it makes sense for Thorne and company to kill Jon is to do it NOT because of the Wildlings but to take control of the Nights Watch. Basically it was a coup.
IF it was about the Wildlings Thorne would have killed Jon before he went to Hardhome not afterwards since once they are across their is no getting them back behind the wall.
This is why I think so many non book readers are completely confused about Jon's death. The show did a poor job explaining the situation and it is too difficult to connect the dots. Jon gets proved correct and he is killed anyway. Either the Nights Watch has rabies and is acting completely irrational or Jon's death was about something they never covered. Either way that is a major plot flaw.