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Vllad Wrote:All the lore is basically the fantasy but the real story is just basic machiavelian crap. At best the lore is all made up fantasy from a bunch of horrible people starving for power. At worst he takes the last two books and brings out the fantasy parts of the story. That would really piss me off.

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The fantasy has been a part of the story since the first book. It starts off very much in the background but is built upon more and more in subsequent books. In the first book there are the green dreams, the Others, the dragons, and the witch woman. Yes, the story is very light on the magical fantasy elements but they are there.

My problem with Martin is that he is a sick puppy. I used to read his Wild Card stories but they eventually became so sick, twisted, and depraved that I had to stop. So far this series has not reached that point in print but on the screen it got very close just in the first season.
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