02-22-2012, 05:48 PM
Strife Wrote:Name a skill based game where every character you fought wasn't basically the exact same thing?
Eve, Planetside, Shattered Galaxy, WWII online.
All of the above games are purely skilled based, while flawed all were successful and all of them the best pvp MMO's I have played. Their are tons of options in the above games and many people played many different successful rolls.
I am with you on Shadowbane. Keep in mind that it wasn't just a class based game. It was a class and skill based.
Strife Wrote:The game wasn't initially created as a great PvP game which was a failure from the beginning... had nothing to do with a lack of balance between the classes.
Rift was advertised and tried selling itself as a PVP game that had PVE. It is the reason Purge played it to begin with. We were supposed to be contesting for each zone, generating rifts that allowed our teams NPC's to spawn. The more ground you lost the more Rifts you could open. Controlling the zones were supposed to create team benefits. Before starting Rift I read multiple 500 word adds and reviews from the designers that was selling Rift as a PVP game. To quote a review "It will do what Warhammer didn't".
I get now that Rift wasn't supposed to be a great PVP game. They did try to sell me a great PVP game though. Just about nothing that they promised was actually in the game.
Strife Wrote:The reason there isn't a great PvP, class based game is because of a lack of vision from those with enough money to actually produce a game. Shadowbane tried, small company. Darkfall tried, small company. UO was too ahead of it's time and is more of a revolutionary game than a good pvp game.
I agree with you. Great games in general are not produced because no one is willing to take the risk given the expense to put out such products. When any industry starts to be affraid of risk and starts repeating itself it eventually stagnates.
The next great game we play will come out of no where and will be a big surprise from some small company that is willing to take the risk to be great.
Vllad