+- The Purge (https://thepurge.net)
+-- Forum: Public (https://thepurge.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=5)
+--- Forum: Off Topic (https://thepurge.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=17)
+--- Thread: The next step toward skynet (/showthread.php?tid=6640)
The next step toward skynet - Dustie - 05-14-2009
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517481,00.html
Quote:The U.S. Army is testing the Autonomous Rotorcraft Sniper System (ARSS) — a remote-controlled unmanned Vigilante robot helicopter equipped with a high-velocity sniper rifle.
Its RND Edge semi-automatic gun is mounted on a self-stabilizing turret with built-in zoom camera, and fires 7 to 10 precisely aimed .338-caliber rounds per second.
Back on the ground, a human directs it using a modified Xbox 360 controller, which plugs into a laptop so that the operator can see what the drone sees.
- Slamz - 05-14-2009
Yeah, I saw that. I like it. I'm sure there are cases where firing a hellfire missile is a little bit of overkill.
- Jakensama - 05-14-2009
Can it find Sarah Connor?
- Thudz - 05-14-2009
As long as this technology is used to augment our fighting force and not replace it I'm happy. We can never replace trained soldiers with machines.
- Jakensama - 05-14-2009
Never say never. I mean we certainly never should, but that doesn't mean it will never be possible.
- Hoofhurr - 05-14-2009
We might not be able to but the machines will!
- Dustie - 05-14-2009
Hoofhurr Wrote:We might not be able to but the machines will!
Exactly!
- OrsunVZ - 05-14-2009
This on the heals of the new Terminator flick, I dunno... I think the machines are about to rise!
- Thudz - 05-14-2009
Jakensama Wrote:Never say never. I mean we certainly never should, but that doesn't mean it will never be possible.
My never was meant as we "Can't let it happen." not that it could never happen. We as humans need to maintain our ability to fight with our hands and rifles and not be dependent upon technology.
- Vanraw - 05-14-2009
Its the same thing as the predictors right? Just in helicopter form? I mean a human is driving it right?
I love that we can go out and kill the enemy, and the only thing we risk, is $$$$ that went into the drones. Its like the reverse of the terrorest who strap bombs to thier chest and kill themselves to kill the enemy.
We just strap a bomb or gun on a piece of hardware and say "who the fuck cares if you shoot me down. The human is 100 miles away.
- Dustie - 05-14-2009
Yep, a human drives it ... for now. =)
I think this is more powerful in terms sniping though. This thing can hover and "watch" targets from a good distance away. With the predator, you'd be circling and probably wouldn't have the "hovering platform" precision and decision making capability (i.e. this thing hovers in silent mode while you call for the go ahead from the president).
- Moristans - 05-14-2009
Quote:We as humans need to maintain our ability to fight with our hands and rifles and not be dependent upon technology.
That's fine, until Skynet becomes self-realized and decides our fate in a nanosecond.
- Zephyrs - 05-14-2009
Arent there already autonomous planes flown with AI ?
- Thudz - 05-14-2009
Zephyrs Wrote:Arent there already autonomous planes flown with AI ?
Not in the US Service. There is still a very strong argument against build AI for the purpose of killing and rightfully so. I never want to see the day a computer makes the decision to take a human life.
- Vllad - 05-14-2009
I don't like it because the more unpersonal killing becomes the more likely we are to keep on killing.
Wars fought with robots (even if they don't have AI) will lead to just as many bad things as robots with AI.
Vllad
- Thudz - 05-14-2009
Vllad Wrote:I don't like it because the more unpersonal killing becomes the more likely we are to keep on killing.
Wars fought with robots (even if they don't have AI) will lead to just as many bad things as robots with AI.
Vllad
If I could snap my fingers and send the world's military technology back to the dark ages I would. Real men fight with steel face to face.
- Diggles - 05-14-2009
Thudz Wrote:Zephyrs Wrote:Arent there already autonomous planes flown with AI ?
Not in the US Service. There is still a very strong argument against build AI for the purpose of killing and rightfully so. I never want to see the day a computer makes the decision to take a human life.
I was under the impression Predator drones can be programmed with missions and left to their own devices and alert if they find anything useful, and that pilots can override and take control. WHereas the reaper drones are always controlled by humans
- Thudz - 05-14-2009
Diggles Wrote:Thudz Wrote:Zephyrs Wrote:Arent there already autonomous planes flown with AI ?
Not in the US Service. There is still a very strong argument against build AI for the purpose of killing and rightfully so. I never want to see the day a computer makes the decision to take a human life.
I was under the impression Predator drones can be programmed with missions and left to their own devices and alert if they find anything useful, and that pilots can override and take control. WHereas the reaper drones are always controlled by humans
Patrols Yes, firing on a target No.
- Hoofhurr - 05-15-2009
Vllad Wrote:I don't like it because the more unpersonal killing becomes the more likely we are to keep on killing.
Wars fought with robots (even if they don't have AI) will lead to just as many bad things as robots with AI.
Vllad
I'm happy to hear you say that. Killing is often and unfortunately necessary but the idea that we can one day go without it should always be the goal.
- Hoofhurr - 05-15-2009
Moristans Wrote:Quote:We as humans need to maintain our ability to fight with our hands and rifles and not be dependent upon technology.
That's fine, until Skynet becomes self-realized and decides our fate in a nanosecond.
Nanosecond? Picosecond!
- Jakensama - 05-15-2009
Thudz Wrote:If I could snap my fingers and send the world's military technology back to the dark ages I would. Real men fight with steel face to face.
If fighting with gun technology makes you not a real man I don't know why steel should be allowed, we should just be in loincloths beating each other with sticks.
I would prefer a fight where a good trait like intelligence determines the winner compared to an animal trait like brute force.
- Slamz - 05-15-2009
![[Image: vizzini.jpg]](http://blog.lib.umn.edu/snackeru/greet/images/vizzini.jpg)
Vizzini approves.
- Thudz - 05-15-2009
Jakensama Wrote:Thudz Wrote:If I could snap my fingers and send the world's military technology back to the dark ages I would. Real men fight with steel face to face.
If fighting with gun technology makes you not a real man I don't know why steel should be allowed, we should just be in loincloths beating each other with sticks.
I would prefer a fight where a good trait like intelligence determines the winner compared to an animal trait like brute force.
Try using your brain when I lop it off with my sword. If I had the choice I prefer melee to range.
- Jakensama - 05-15-2009
If I had the choice I choose manipulating others to take the risk for me while I reap the benefits.
- Thudz - 05-15-2009
Jakensama Wrote:If I had the choice I choose manipulating others to take the risk for me while I reap the benefits.
Good thing I target the source and not the grunts. Easier to kill one than millions.