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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Donions - 06-12-2015
Jon Snow is the only "hero" in the show that's left for the people that haven't read the books.
[spoiler]Jon will get stabbed in the beginning of the episode, cerseis shit will happen in the middle, and Jon will get Rez'd at the end? They really dont want to overdo the whole "being risen from the dead shit" though so i dont think we ever see stoneheart. maybe they could have dondarrion to rez her later on in the series to kill of brienne and bring they freys back in to get lit up.[/spoiler]
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - OrsunVZ - 06-14-2015
Skelas Wrote:So O-face, have you intimated to your wife that some serious shit might go down in the finale? Has she pressed you for what?
Just curious.....
I don't give anything away. She doesn't ask. And at this point, its anyone's guess. She's an interesting viewer because as far as tastes go, she isn't exactly the most likely show watcher. The show definitely has a broad appeal.
I still hope zombie cat makes an appearance in the finale, and the title Mother's Mercy (while could easily refer to mother of dragons, could also refer to cat) makes me wonder if Cat is the person who comes to Jon's rescue. While cool in my mind, I don't know how they'd pull it off in a single episode.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Jakensama - 06-14-2015
OrsunVZ Wrote:I still hope zombie cat makes an appearance in the finale, and the title Mother's Mercy (while could easily refer to mother of dragons, could also refer to cat) makes me wonder if Cat is the person who comes to Jon's rescue. While cool in my mind, I don't know how they'd pull it off in a single episode.
Mothers Mercy refers to the fact that Cersei is going to ask for the mothers mercy and get forced to walk down the street nekkid... Why would Zombie cat help the bastard she hated, especially since death made her hollow and vengeful?
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - OrsunVZ - 06-14-2015
Because she was saved by the Red God, and if Jon is truly Azor, there would be a connection.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Jakensama - 06-14-2015
I'm not sure it really ties you to the red god or anything, it just burns away some of your old personality. She didn't really become evangelical or anything after being rezzed.
Plus the riverlands and the wall are very far away from each other.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - OrsunVZ - 06-14-2015
yeah it's not a theory ;P just a musing.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Skelas - 06-14-2015
Well, they did it. Oface, I'm dying to hear how your wife reacted. Hell, I knew it was coming and it messed me up
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Dharus - 06-14-2015
Yup, let the nerd rage begin...
So, with the red priestess coming back its pretty obvious what will happen.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - OrsunVZ - 06-14-2015
Afterwards, I said I had hoped they wouldn't end it this way, and that I thought they might lose viewers. She replied she wouldn't be one of the lost, and then complained about having to wait another year.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - OrsunVZ - 06-14-2015
Dharus Wrote:Yup, let the nerd rage begin...
So, with the red priestess coming back its pretty obvious what will happen.
[spoiler]Yeah lots of foreshadowing, but I think these guys are just as effed up as Martin, so I fear a red herring. But the crown of light around Jon's head was at the very least a nod and a wink to all the theorists out there.[/spoiler]
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Skelas - 06-14-2015
You know, maybe Jon snow is the true big baddie in this whole game. Maybe it's Jon snow who gets resurrected by the white walkers, and he's the one that leads the white walkers against Dany and her dragons. Azor could be a total fake out . Dany vs Jon, dragons vs white walkers,. There will be fines and suspensions!
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Jakensama - 06-14-2015
Yeah that nerd theory has been around a while too:
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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Zouji - 06-15-2015
That episode went pretty much like I thought it would. They have steered things back to the path of the books. More or less.
I'm glad they were continuing with the Arya storyline in that episode. That puts her back on track with the books.
The Stannis, Myrcella, and Shireen bit has jumped ahead of the books, but I'm fine with that. Now we get to see if Lord Fat Ass can stop eating nachos and watching NFL, long enough to write the next book.
If not then we will see more whacky hijinks of Jamie/Bronn tag team and the Sand Snakes.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Vllad - 06-15-2015
Dharus Wrote:Yup, let the nerd rage begin...
So, with the red priestess coming back its pretty obvious what will happen.
I wouldn't count on it.
First, it isn't even clear the Red Bitch even has the capability, not all Priest have the same abilities. Second, Zombie Cat is the only major character of either the books or the show that ever had a twist to their deaths. Everyone else, once they are dead they stay dead. Since Zombie Cat never made it into the shows...
If this was the Brady Bunch you could count on a Jon Snow return. However this is Game of Thrones and after every season and book people have theorized at a return of everyone dead. It hasn't happened so far.
I have no doubt after all the theory crafting by fans about R+L=J that George will kill Jon off just to end that shit. How ironic would it be that Jon actually means nothing after all this time.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Dharus - 06-15-2015
They put the Sir what's his name guy in the riverlands who was being hunted by the Mountain in the series. He wasn't significant AND they deviated the red priestess to see him contrary to the books. Maester Ameon (sp?) words to Jon "lose the boy". The visuals at the end. Signs are too many to be a red herring. The red herring was for the priestess to be with Stannis but that's been cleared up.
Now whether he is the chosen one, i dont know.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - OrsunVZ - 06-15-2015
Dharus Wrote:They put the Sir what's his name guy in the riverlands who was being hunted by the Mountain in the series. He wasn't significant AND they deviated the red priestess to see him contrary to the books. Maester Ameon (sp?) words to Jon "lose the boy". The visuals at the end. Signs are too many to be a red herring. The red herring was for the priestess to be with Stannis but that's been cleared up.
Now whether he is the chosen one, i dont know.
I agree.
[spoiler]AND I think the reason they kept Cat out of this, is probably so that when Jon met his fate at the end of this episode, that people aren't tipped off to the fact that he could come back.[/spoiler]
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Breand - 06-15-2015
Bach Wrote:Milisandra is just down the road and to the Myr death is a bump in the road and she favors Jon...could be lucky for Jon? So maybe he is Azur.
But wait Jon can't wield a burning sword...so maybe Jon is out?
But no one really knows who Jons parents really are? His rumored mother was involved with Targarian and Ned Stark. But what if Honorable Ned really was keeping a promise by raising Jon for a woman he admired who had a Targarian baby? Ned would have to keep it a secret and raise the boy as his own or his own good friend King Robert would have had to kill the boy. Has anyone seen Jon get burnt?....maybe he is back in?
[spoiler]It's basically all but confirmed that Jon is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. And Longclaw doesn't need to burn, it's already made with dragon fire! Also Martin has said Dany can be burned, what happened with the dragons was a "magical moment."[/spoiler]
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Vllad - 06-15-2015
Dharus Wrote:He wasn't significant AND they deviated the red priestess to see him contrary to the books.
The Red Bitch went to the Botherhood to pick up Gendry so she could bring him back to Stannis. She was just as amazed by the ressurection as everyone else.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Jakensama - 06-15-2015
The only reason to have her brought personally collect him like that (unlike the book) was to drill in the fact that this minor character no-one knows about was ressurected by a priest with her powers. She didn't have the power before to raise people, but she hadn't burned a person with kings blood at that point before - her previous power came from sex with stannis or the leeches with Gendry. She used none of her new power to save Stannis and his army.
So now she comes back at the right time with a new well of power right as Jon dies with all the intimation that she is her chosen one. It's possible it's all a big fuck you to everyone, but highly doubtful.
Also, they just brought the Mountain back so that's two rez's the show has tossed thus far.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Vllad - 06-15-2015
Jakensama Wrote:Also, they just brought the Mountain back so that's two rez's the show has tossed thus far.
The Mountain never died that we know of. We just know he comes back as something different then when he was poisoned.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - strife - 06-15-2015
I really wish the seasons were 12-15 episodes long and they took a little more time fleshing out storylines; I feel like they breeze through plot points too fast.
I watched the 5th season over the weekend(Fri-Sun) and after finishing it my wife wanted to start over at season one... I got to see this image again.
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You thought Drogon was big now... look how fucking big that skull is(granted that is Balerion who was ~200 years old)
I was curious how they were going to do the Cersei walk of shame... turns out, she does have a no nudity clause and that was a body double. Figures...
I really hope season 6 features more of the sand snakes and Bronn... probably the best part of season 5.
Overall I was pretty meh on Season 5. I wish they would have showed Stannis getting killed... I feel it's another hound moment. I assume he's dead, but would have preferred them to confirm it and not leave any doubt.
I can't image Jon is actually dead. Yea they've killed big characters off before, but I feel this would be the biggest character killed... the only one bigger would be killing Daenerys IMO. Having Melisandre show up right when he dies is kind of foreshadowing a resurrection... but it could also be Dan & Dave giving the finger to all of the Jon Targaryen conspiracy theories.
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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Dharus - 06-15-2015
Well, i disagree on the Dorne characters... a letdown for me. Bronn is a good actor and character but i dont care for the whole sideshow. Ironborn were much more interesting. I guess next season will expand that narrative since Danny needs ships.
A friend and I were discussing this today. We pretty much think The Song of Fire and Ice is about Jon Snow's life and events of his lifetime. I think he is part Targaryen and Lyanna promised Ned to take Snow and promise to never tell. Ned's a promise keeper. If you reread the first book, you'll see a lot of hints. He never cheated. He is keeping a promise protecting an innocent boy from his friend Robert and the Lannisters. The Game of Thrones begins.
You know Danny can't control/ride her dragons but you know who could? Wargs which means Bran, Jon, and/or Rikkon. Three headed dragon. I bet when Jon comes too, much like Bran, will understand his talent.
The books were good with filling the air with red herring plots. The way the timing of each chapter per book just made things very foggy as what will happen next. Well, the series cut through a lot of that and pretty much gives it to you straight up even if its short spots. Sure there is some questions but if you look at the book vs series body of work separately you'll see that the series doesn't give you red herring plots just some cliffhanger elements.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - strife - 06-15-2015
Dharus Wrote:A friend and I were discussing this today. We pretty much think The Song of Fire and Ice is about Jon Snow's life and events of his lifetime. I think he is part Targaryen and Lyanna promised Ned to take Snow and promise to never tell. Ned's a promise keeper. If you reread the first book, you'll see a lot of hints. He never cheated. He is keeping a promise protecting an innocent boy from his friend Robert and the Lannisters. The Game of Thrones begins.That's pretty much the most popular fan theory going on. There are others, but none of them get as much play as this one.
Quote:You know Danny can't control/ride her dragons but you know who could? Wargs which means Bran, Jon, and/or Rikkon. Three headed dragon. I bet when Jon comes too, much like Bran, will understand his talent.I can't remember if Jon has shown the ability to Warg yet or any affinity to doing it. Obviously Bran has and Rikkon isn't a big enough character for me to think he'd be that big of a character later... maybe... but I don't see a plotline finishing where Dany isn't one of the main dragon riders. I could see Dany, Jorah and Daario riding them though! And why can't Dany control her dragons? She pretty much proved that wrong to some extent in the last few episodes. She may not have 100% control of them yet, but they are definitely bonded with her... and if she spends more time with them, there's no reason to think she can't be in 100% control of them. You don't have to be a Targaryen or a Warg to control dragons, you just have to be bonded to them... which some dragons get bonded to multiple people after their riders die. If you've read the World of Ice and Fire, there are people who were basically just regular knights/people.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Bach - 06-15-2015
So I finally got the chance to watch it and all in all I find it just lacking something I can't put my finger on. I should be left dying to see the next season begin. But truth be told I pretty much feel I can wait no problem. It was a very meh kind of story season with some great action mixed in. Mostly I think the writers need to develop something less yo-yo like.
So Danny seems to finally get her city under control...then almost everybody dies.
Jamie connects with his daughter....then she dies.
Stanis, after giving up everything he has gets his chance at Winterfell...and everybody dies
Jon rescues and proves himself to the wildlings and the Night King....and then he dies.
Sansa and Reek finally fight back....and then the both jump off a cliff.
Arya finally becomes an assassin and makes a great kill....and then she goes blind.
Cerci gets totally humiliated by the Seven and the townsfolk.....and nobody dies??? But she gets a pet Zombie.
Are these ALL supposed to be storyline cliffhangers leaving me on the edge of my seat? There is like no promise of anything to come. Not a smidgen of a Zombie Mountain bashing Seven heads, no dragon army for Danny or anything promising to really look forward too. I think they have hit that stage where the writers feel they don't need to give us anything. They already own us and will take their time deciding what we can have next.
All I can say is this. This Spring I paid money to watch Black Sails and just watched GoT for free a day later in my hotel room. Damned glad I paid for the right one.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones SPOILERS INSIDE. you have been war - Jakensama - 06-15-2015
Strife Wrote:I really hope season 6 features more of the sand snakes and Bronn... probably the best part of season 5.
lolwut? Dorne was by far the worst part of the entire 5 seasons.