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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Shinigami - 05-10-2012
Difference being is that I would trust Vetinari over Baelish. Don't give me that look Vetinari at least has loyalty to the function of Ankh Morpork. Do not impede or endanger the city and Vetinari will not take issue, kill, or ruin you. If he chooses too be sure that there is a reason that transcends the personal. As always Vetinari I bow my head to you the pragmatist of pragmatists.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 05-10-2012
Vllad Wrote:[spoiler]Who would you rather read about, Boring Dorn, Cersai, Iron Idiots, Sansa, Jamie, Brienne, Arya and Sam OR Bran, John, Danny, Jamie, Brienne, Arya, Tyrion and Sam?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Any of the above except Brienne. I liked some of the Dorn stuff, Sansa's little metamorphasis has made her chapters much interesting... I probably enjoy the Danny portion of the story the absolute least. The worst he did is when he pulls out the wtf character at the end of Dragons and focuses so much on him...[/spoiler]
Anyway, middle books in a series don't have to be good on their own, they are by necessity predicated on what came before them.
Also I agree with above about Bran, those chapters were probably some of the hardest for me to get through.. The whole dream world and running around in animals crap bores the shit out of me, same reason I could hardly stomach Perrins chapters in Wheel of Time.
Also (and spoiler if you havent finished DOD don't read) [spoiler]There is no way Jon is dead, or if he is he'll be brought back as Zombie John by Melisandre since he is almost certainly the prince who was promised and the third head of the Targaryens left in the story[/spoiler]
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vllad - 05-15-2012
Was it just me or was the last episode the most most boring ever. Nothing actually happened. When you only do 10 or 11 episodes you can't really afford to do nothing.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Skelas - 05-15-2012
Vllad Wrote:Was it just me or was the last episode the most most boring ever. Nothing actually happened. When you only do 10 or 11 episodes you can't really afford to do nothing.
I'll have to admit it was the first time I've ever looked at the clock while watching GoT. Usually i'm surprised and saddened when it's over. I'll give them a pass though for past greatness, even ho-hum GoT is better than 90% of the shit out there.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Flab - 05-15-2012
Yes, it was a vey forgettable episode. I recall a bed getting stabbed.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Shinigami - 05-15-2012
What of the two children burned alive to break the spirits of the Winterfell people? That wasn't or is Theon just not that popular or interesting?
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Skelas - 05-15-2012
I think a large part of that (wondering about the Theon storyline) is whether you have read the books.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 05-15-2012
Meh, its a setup episode, and at this point in the arc it kinda makes sense to set the last parts of the second season into kickoff -
- Sansa being able to be pawned off (and another scene where Cersei seems a lot less of a c-word than she does in the novels).
- Jon getting setup and captured by wildlings (boy has that storyline diverged from the book thus fan)
(And speaking of divergent storylines and humanizing characters more, the whole making Arya Twin's cupbearer and making him seem human is quite a different move from the books too).
- Leading Danny ito the Warlock's place
- Having the kids strung up and tarred in winterfel.
I think a lot of us suffer from the fact that we know what is coming next (or, considering how much more and more they are changing things this season, what *should* come next) and are impatient for it. Watching it tabula rosa would have been much better I think, and I actually enjoy the more characterization they are putting in some of the lannisters.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vllad - 05-15-2012
Shinigami Wrote:What of the two children burned alive to break the spirits of the Winterfell people? That wasn't or is Theon just not that popular or interesting?
That was the last 5 seconds the of the show.
By the speed they have been going I expected:
Dany in the Labyrinth
Arya escaping Harrenhall
John meeting Mance
Kate releasing Jamie
Tyrion building the chain
etc.
What we got was Arya/Tywin thing (odd) and Dany whining about where here dragons went. Tyrion and Cersai connecting in a feel good moment?
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 05-15-2012
2 of those 5 things don't occur until book 3 (Cat/Jamie, Jon/Mance).. A lot of book 2 was setup for book 3. As I said, I think if it feels slow its just that we have forgotten what happens when in the series and that this series is essentially a compression of book 2.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 05-16-2012
I agree with Jake. I find myself often muttering "OMG, I can't wait for such n' such"
If I didn't know what was coming, some of the events would be more impactful than they currently are, simply because I don't know what they mean. I'd be spending the week wondering what was going to happen, or what it meant when so and so did whatever to whosamafark...
I envy people seeing this fresh.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Xyphos - 05-16-2012
Well, shit like the dragons going missing is new to even those that have read the books. If anything, I was MORE surprised by that then people that hadn't read the books.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 05-17-2012
OrsunVZ Wrote:I agree with Jake. I find myself often muttering "OMG, I can't wait for such n' such"
If I didn't know what was coming, some of the events would be more impactful than they currently are, simply because I don't know what they mean. I'd be spending the week wondering what was going to happen, or what it meant when so and so did whatever to whosamafark...
I envy people seeing this fresh.
That's me. I'm enjoying it .
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Rallick - 05-17-2012
Vanraw Wrote:OrsunVZ Wrote:I agree with Jake. I find myself often muttering "OMG, I can't wait for such n' such"
If I didn't know what was coming, some of the events would be more impactful than they currently are, simply because I don't know what they mean. I'd be spending the week wondering what was going to happen, or what it meant when so and so did whatever to whosamafark...
I envy people seeing this fresh.
That's me. I'm enjoying it .
Same here. Haven't read the books (neither has the Wife) so the series is going very well for us
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Venganza - 05-20-2012
Vanraw Wrote:OrsunVZ Wrote:I envy people seeing this fresh.
That's me. I'm enjoying it .
And me
never read em! Love love love this series though.If it turns out like carnivale or any of the other million series i liked that died in 2 or 3 seasons i'll be so pissed.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vllad - 05-30-2012
I think Sunday was my favorite episode as far as the show was concerned. What a change over the 3 minute tidbits of every characters. Well done.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 05-30-2012
Yeah me too Vllad. I friggin' loved this last episode. And I know there were some significant departures at this point from the books, so I've given up judging it from that standpoint.
The dialogue between sansa and the hound in this last episode was so good. SO GOOD!!!! I will be rewatching this episode for sure, and it's the first one this season that I really have felt I NEED to rewatch (I think I watched the first episode of season 1 at least 5 times).
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 06-03-2012
Is Stannis Baratheon gonna have to choke a bitch?
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 06-03-2012
Wow,I had no idea this was a zombie show :-) .
This was a great series. Can't wait till next year.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 06-03-2012
Next season is gonna get CRAZY!!!!!
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 06-03-2012
I do have one question that bothers me. After winterfell was burned, and the Stark kids came out of hiding, where was the 500 strong army that surrounded the keep?
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 06-03-2012
Probably busy flaying the Iron Islanders who were gonna try to sell Theon to Ramsey..
House of the undying was a bit anticlimactic, especially as the prophecy she got there is kind of relevant in the future.
I guess they blew their budget on the last episode.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vllad - 06-04-2012
Jakensama Wrote:Probably busy flaying the Iron Islanders who were gonna try to sell Theon to Ramsey..
House of the undying was a bit anticlimactic, especially as the prophecy she got there is kind of relevant in the future.
I guess they blew their budget on the last episode.
Oh so those were prophecy's? In the book she received prophecy's but they certainly weren't anything like what happened last night. I just assumed it was there way of showing the different rooms of the house of undying.
I can't wait to see who play's Ramsey.
So probably the next season ends at the Red Wedding? I hope they explore the north more then Martin does.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 06-04-2012
Ok so I went and read some of the synopsis on the books, and it sounds to me like Ramsey (who isnt in the show yet) was the one that sacked winterfell and killed the grey joys and took Theon hostage. I didnt get that at all from the show.
It seemed to me that Theon's crew knocked him out and left, miraculously getting by the 500 northerners that surrounded the keep.
They synopsis of the book certainly closes some gaps I have in my mind as far as the burning of the winterfell and what happened to the 500 strong army.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 06-04-2012
Vanraw Wrote:Ok so I went and read some of the synopsis on the books, and it sounds to me like Ramsey (who isnt in the show yet) was the one that sacked winterfell and killed the grey joys and took Theon hostage. I didnt get that at all from the show.
Well it goes down differently in the book and show. In the show you had Roose mention to Robb that he was going to send his Bastard with men to free Winterfell, in the book some other shit happens and they betray the northmen army and take winterfell for themselves.
Quote:It seemed to me that Theon's crew knocked him out and left, miraculously getting by the 500 northerners that surrounded the keep.
I am just hypothesizing that he was turned over to the Boltons for them to try to go home, since he is going to end up in their hands one way or another.
The show seems glad to change things quite a bit to make it flow better for TV but the basic events are there in some form, and Theon's fate is going to likely not change..